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	<title>Comments on: NYC bicycle abuse</title>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-42647</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see more NYC cyclists obeying traffic laws. Pedestrians have to be extremely careful while crossing the streets in NY because you never know when you&#039;re going to be struck by a cyclist going the wrong way on a one way street or blowing through a red light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see more NYC cyclists obeying traffic laws. Pedestrians have to be extremely careful while crossing the streets in NY because you never know when you&#8217;re going to be struck by a cyclist going the wrong way on a one way street or blowing through a red light.</p>
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		<title>By: ascher</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-42471</link>
		<dc:creator>ascher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLT,

what a silly comment.  i&#039;m no fan of CM, necessarily, but you seem to be confusing two very critical distinctions.  what the cops &quot;do&quot; (throw you off your bikes&quot; is important only to your kneecaps and other symptoms of being &quot;attacked&quot;.  thugs and police can/will do proper/improper things all the time .  what the police can do, lawfully, is the only issue.  police have one job alone: the enforce the law.  what law were they enforcing?

where is the requirement for a permit?  simply because others choose to buy into a certain protocol does not require the next person/ group to as well.  the requirement if for the city/police to demonstrate a permit is required (a whole other issue to be dealt with).

finally, CM is a demonstration or a protest of sorts.  getting into bed with the city of ny is hardly a way to protest.  it&#039;s time to step outside of the mindless thinking of this post 911 city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLT,</p>
<p>what a silly comment.  i&#8217;m no fan of CM, necessarily, but you seem to be confusing two very critical distinctions.  what the cops &#8220;do&#8221; (throw you off your bikes&#8221; is important only to your kneecaps and other symptoms of being &#8220;attacked&#8221;.  thugs and police can/will do proper/improper things all the time .  what the police can do, lawfully, is the only issue.  police have one job alone: the enforce the law.  what law were they enforcing?</p>
<p>where is the requirement for a permit?  simply because others choose to buy into a certain protocol does not require the next person/ group to as well.  the requirement if for the city/police to demonstrate a permit is required (a whole other issue to be dealt with).</p>
<p>finally, CM is a demonstration or a protest of sorts.  getting into bed with the city of ny is hardly a way to protest.  it&#8217;s time to step outside of the mindless thinking of this post 911 city.</p>
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		<title>By: BLT</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-42457</link>
		<dc:creator>BLT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  That is an extremely one-sided version of the &quot;Critical Mass&quot; story.  Has &quot;Critical Mass&quot; ever tried to deal with the city to get a permit to hold such demonstrations?  I seem to doubt it.  Sometimes if you work with the city, it works back with you.  Public demonstration is a protected first amendment right, but without the proper planning and permits yes, they will throw you off your bicycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  That is an extremely one-sided version of the &#8220;Critical Mass&#8221; story.  Has &#8220;Critical Mass&#8221; ever tried to deal with the city to get a permit to hold such demonstrations?  I seem to doubt it.  Sometimes if you work with the city, it works back with you.  Public demonstration is a protected first amendment right, but without the proper planning and permits yes, they will throw you off your bicycle.</p>
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		<title>By: VICTOR</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-42351</link>
		<dc:creator>VICTOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HAVE JUST TAKEN UP RIDING AND FIND THAT DRIVER DO NOT EXTEND ANY PLEASANTRIES TOWARD RIDER, BUT ALSO I HAVE NOTICE THAT SOME RIDER DISOBEYING TRAFFIC RULES AS WELL.WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT ALL MUST BE SHARE EQUALLY OR ELSE THINGS WON&#039;T MOVE SWIFTLY AND DANGEROUSLY, SO I THINK BOTH SIDE NEEDS TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY IN ORDER FOR ALL TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY OUR RIGHT TO SHARE THE ROAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HAVE JUST TAKEN UP RIDING AND FIND THAT DRIVER DO NOT EXTEND ANY PLEASANTRIES TOWARD RIDER, BUT ALSO I HAVE NOTICE THAT SOME RIDER DISOBEYING TRAFFIC RULES AS WELL.WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT ALL MUST BE SHARE EQUALLY OR ELSE THINGS WON&#8217;T MOVE SWIFTLY AND DANGEROUSLY, SO I THINK BOTH SIDE NEEDS TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY IN ORDER FOR ALL TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY OUR RIGHT TO SHARE THE ROAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-26541</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urgh...I am all for biking and the environment but CM riders are the worst of the worst of bikers.  Yes cars are big and dirty, and yes some drivers are unsafe.  But a CM ride has kept me waiting at ONE traffic light for over 10 minutes without moving.  I can also attest to the traffic being a nightmare when we finally did start moving again.  They have cursed at me, spit at me and once attacked the car I was in while waiting patiently for them all to pass.  Oddly enough, standing on the hood of a car isn&#039;t the way to get the driver to convert to your cause.  Since then I have noticed more and more bikers ignoring traffic laws while whining about their &quot;right to ride&quot;.  Go ahead and ride...but not against the light, the wrong way down a 1-way street or on MY sidewalk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urgh&#8230;I am all for biking and the environment but CM riders are the worst of the worst of bikers.  Yes cars are big and dirty, and yes some drivers are unsafe.  But a CM ride has kept me waiting at ONE traffic light for over 10 minutes without moving.  I can also attest to the traffic being a nightmare when we finally did start moving again.  They have cursed at me, spit at me and once attacked the car I was in while waiting patiently for them all to pass.  Oddly enough, standing on the hood of a car isn&#8217;t the way to get the driver to convert to your cause.  Since then I have noticed more and more bikers ignoring traffic laws while whining about their &#8220;right to ride&#8221;.  Go ahead and ride&#8230;but not against the light, the wrong way down a 1-way street or on MY sidewalk.</p>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-20419</link>
		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ride away from the cops, and FAST!!!!!!!!FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-18246</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My local park does not allow bikes either. Only one of has had any type of punishment for rining there and he got kicked out and banned from the park. I think this is bullshit. You shouldnt get arrested for riging your bike at a skate park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My local park does not allow bikes either. Only one of has had any type of punishment for rining there and he got kicked out and banned from the park. I think this is bullshit. You shouldnt get arrested for riging your bike at a skate park.</p>
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		<title>By: montnanabmx</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-16716</link>
		<dc:creator>montnanabmx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bmw m3, your fucking ignorant. I can say the same thing about you, i wont give a fuck or feel any sympathy when you end up in a three car pile up. fuck you. BMX FOREVER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmw m3, your fucking ignorant. I can say the same thing about you, i wont give a fuck or feel any sympathy when you end up in a three car pile up. fuck you. BMX FOREVER!</p>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-16456</link>
		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuck the power and bmw m3</description>
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		<title>By: tiny</title>
		<link>http://overstated.net/2005/01/31/nyc-bicycle-abuse/comment-page-2#comment-15357</link>
		<dc:creator>tiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is not right lets all &quot;FIGHT THE POWER&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is not right lets all &#8220;FIGHT THE POWER&#8221;</p>
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